Showing posts with label MountainMeadows. Show all posts
Showing posts with label MountainMeadows. Show all posts

Monday, July 16, 2007

Mountain Meadows--Church and Army Indian Agents

The best way to view this photo is to put it on your desktop and open it there. The girl and woman/older girl are not struggling as it seemed when I viewed it from my picture file. The land around the creek is muddy and overgrazed. The older woman/girl is squatting and trying to comfort the younger, who looks 12 or 13 she may have wanted go to the child, who is either falling or trying to get up or neither. It seems likely that he/she has been knocked to the ground. The fabric of the shift the child is wearing appears to be patterned.


There is no way to tell more without knowing the identity of the woman and children in the picture. I think the very large man
with the commanding stance is Jacob Hamblin. He assumed that his permission for the Fanchers to stay, virtually in his dooryard, would be enough to reassure all involved that he would see to the matter when he returned.


The indians have been exonerated, but I think they were restrained, but only with great effort.

I am lucky to have heard my grandfathers stories when I was nine or so, long before he wrote his book when I was a teenager.
This is a story I heard as a teen.

My grandfather said than one day he was with his father when a very old man was seen to be struggling up the hill to the mill.

He said he figured he was fixing to die and there was a story he didn't want to take to the grave with him. He said that one day he was sitting with John D Lee when one of the Missouri Wildcats came there bragging that he had raped John D Lee's 16 year daughter in Missouri and would again when he brought the Army from California--forcing the Mormons to fight a two front war.

John D Lee was shaken by this threat and said he could no longer hold the Indians by the hand. The Missouri Wildcat's, the self proclaimed assasins of Joseph Smith had been poisoning Indian wells and shooting indian women outright all the way from Salt Lake.

These tribes and bands were following the Fancher train and bush-wacker protectors all the way South on their small Spanish Horses. By the time they reached Cedar City they outnumbered the white settlers.

Sunday, July 8, 2007

Survivors of the Massacre

Two, according to my Great Grandfather's information, gathered from the leader of the local band, were men, and were tracked by the leader of the local band, who called themselves the Water People, were chased as far as Las Vegas Springs, and killed there.

Then there were two sisters, by the name of Dunlop, and a child--the seventeenth, who was thought to be too young to remember its parents deaths. You can get a photo with a resolution of 856x541 from Wiki, and I strongly suggest it be
left in the article, in the original Government account of the massacre. If this is a picture of the lynching, these girls, and possibly the child, may have been held by the Federal Troops for a year or so while John D. Lee wrote Mormonism Unveiled.
It is a longish book, and I don't think he was in any hurry to finish it. The girls, if in Army hands, may have brrn instructed to write out canned affidavits as well. But this was not the man in charge. He was someone the Army wanted yo hang.

The picture's caption, written on the bottom margin, says that the picture shows John D. Lee, the Church Indian Agent, sitting
in front of his casket. I see the wagon box he was said to have stood on to be hung from a tree. I don't see the tree.

I visited the site with my grandfather, who wanted us to know the place. (I had read Juanita's book the year before, the local library carried it) I don't see the hanging tree here, nor did I see it on our visit. I didn't see the trunk or roots of the tree or any past tree.

I see two girls wrestling, the most visible with her hair down, and in the foreground, a child who appears dead. The Seventeenth child is supposed to have told John D. Lee --You look just like you looked when you killed my Papa. It would have been too far for the child to know anything about John D. Lee's facial expression. If he killed the child's father at all. One of the settler's did.

A group of people, probably troops, seem too be standing a ways off--these may be Lee's family. Why are these three, fitting the General description of the survivors, so close to the supposed place of hanging a year after the Massacre?

A hypothesis I had not considered before I saw this picture, is that these are the Dunlop girls and the surviving child who were held by order of the Army to identify John D. Lee as the official in charge. He could only have been incharge of the 200 or so armed and mounted Indians. Except for a few prominent Cherokees, and the Piedes who tracked the fleeing men to Las Vegas Wells, no indians were involved in the Massacre at all.

They may have been cooerced into pat cOnfession. The child did not go along, neither did one of the girls.

Mountain Meadows Massacre, the lynching

Mountain Meadows Massacre, 1857-Ch1

Yea, even as we speak, the young men of the United States are waging war against two fierce Islamic Nations and we mat be moving into a third, unsurvivable war against a nation that does not forget or forgive. An Iranian Friend whose parents have worked for the American Military and was on the last plane out of Iran, making way for Khomeni to take the reigns of power. The context was personal, and I learned not to offend him. He would bend over backwards not to offend me.
At a certain point there might be no way back from the precipice, we worked hard to stay far back.

Many in all nations have been trapped in a war they had no part in initiating. Our Present did not pay much
attention to his classes in his DOD school, his Ivy League University, catch up classes at Washington University, where one of his TA's told me that he did not see, hear or absorb anything she tried to teach him. He was estranged from his age group, cranked up much of the time. He was not particularly intelligent.

We believed we could survive such a President. Millions of
casualties later, we go on as if war were now normal. There has been no normalcy since 911. DOD planning was in place to fight 1 and a half wars using the 182nd Airborne, the Ready
reserves. In the days of debate in the Senate, when argument escalated into violence, our women Senators rise against the rest I heard Hillary's voice rise above the rest--"Could we just get it down to three wars, PLEASE. She had read the DOD
game plan--the part that said we could not win a war if overextended. We would lose in any war where we were overextended.

Clinton was well ahead in the polls and I was not yet worried.
My friend early predicted a Bush win. Many, many of us had a
particular distaste for him, he had been disliked most of his
life. He was unconcerned about this because, as my friend mentioned DADDY WOULD BUY HIM ANYTHING HE WANTED. IF He WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT, DADDY WOULD BUY HIM THE PRESIDENCY.

I have just noticed an oddity in Wikipedia, I thought I'd blog a bit about a war in my past, a massacre near our town, a place to share my cogitations with people working in Mormon, Genocide, and Holocaust studies.

The account of the Massacre at Mountain Meadows in
Wiki now (first posted in July of 2007, is the official Army version, written 1910, when my Grandfather was a very bright seven, in a periodical of the era. It contains truth and rumor and is egregious for what it omits. Instead of analyzing the invasion of Utah by a third of the Federal Army, mostly rabidly anti-Mormon, the majority bushwackers.

I have been planning to add what my Grandfather and Great Grandfather passed to me that may not be generally
known.

Juanita Brooks is the unrivaled master of the subject.
Her place in the community gained her the confidence of old Sons of the Pioneers who did not want to take their morbid secrets to their graves nearing, as they were, their point of departure.

I know this: when very ill life flashes before you slowly, you regret things unsaid and undone. I remembered a class I audited at BYU called the Mormon Novel, team taught there by Gene England and my Grandmother's Aunt Marie's Grandson
Clifton Jolly--the youngest of my Great, Great Grandparents', Danish orphans who lived with her brothers and worked the land.

I had some pictures of Aunt Marie my Grandmother sent me which my Mother made no attempt to preserve. They were abandoned in her sale of the house, with the lace curtains I used to wind my fingers around when a toddler, with the 2,800 dollars worth
of Cedar Wood furniture he built me, a cabinet topped with florid madrone, Cedar paneling. It pointed magnetic North, and on the Quarter and cross quarter days of the year the sun and moon shone directly into the windows. I could see the broad night sky heavy with stars, I sat outside on summer nights and
watched and thought of my old people. A Hilindscotts voice
spoke in my spiritual ear--lego, lass, lego. I heard the same voice a number of times, as I watched the sunrise at breed,
or sat beneath the sky's dome.

Soma and his Uncle Yuseph sat beneath a summer sky and talked.
Soma yawned and said "I go to bed now," and went into the house, into his bedroom, onto his toddler bed and went to sleep.

Last February I nearly died from massive abdominal abseseses throughout my abdominal cavity. Something has been bothering me since then, and with my other writing, I have decided that I need to write an addendum to the Army's version of the massacre, information taken from my Grandparents' oral accounts.

Mine is a view of the individual's responsibility toward human events, the remembrance of human history, a history of genocide and war--past, present and future. A responsibility the past whose gift has been the will to work on my serial novel or autobiography everyday and into the night.

The Third book deal with my father's participation in WWII Japan attempt to colonize "The East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere," through a systemic genocide that rivals Hitler's Third Reich.

I do not mean to minimize the Shoah or its sacred place in Jewish Religious Life. I do believe that WWII China more resembles the Shoah than those Jews who hold it Sacred have dared admit. Do all men and women have a dark side that waits for its spark to nestle into the tinder? The combination of events and emotion, to converse--throwing them into Chaos, confusion, madness.

The Massacre at Mountain Meadows was an attempt to thwart a repeated Genocide--one that did not occur because of the resolve of its intended victims. Not entirely wrong or entirely right, it used Indigenous tactics that had transformed warfare in the American Revolution--the burning
of supply trains, the driving off of horses and stock, 'till snowfall, and a Winter on short rations at Fort Bridger with the maniacal Squaw Killer Harney.